Hey!

[Manny]

How bout them apples!

Dankmeister, I say we wait for the bliss man on 05. I’ll probably be running my 1.09 (my forever home). I’ll be power leveling a new hero to Hell and then doing cow runs if perhaps you want a nice start to the dankest patch ever made

[TheDankest]

Yo since you wrote singling, does it fix magic find in any way in .05 and other older versions?

[TheDankest]

And I appreciate the offer but I'm waiting to start 09 lol. I may play 08 untill windforce valor valk etc drop and then patch up to 09 or I'll play .09b final version where mf is fixed and uniques are .08 style. I don't really want to time travel between patches with charachters I've done that in the past and meh I wanna do it all super legit this time. I'll probably take a few of my crown jewel 05 rares with me to 08 and then I'll take some crown jewel uniques and the 05 rares to 09 and probably live there

[Manny]

@TheDankest no worries man, see you in 5 years LMAO…j/k. I had very similar intentions except i started backwards from 09. Also picked up some fkin legendary 08s using 09 final edition so im liking how you think! Have fun and we’ll get an 05 game together here soon

[fearedbliss]

@TheDankest Singling only contains non-gameplay modifications. Pre Lod was designed with Magic Find only affecting white monsters (and other different mechanics, like Crushing Blow also only working on white monsters). Changing those in any way would be a deviation from the original intention of the Blizzard North developers, plus it also completely changes the feeling of the game (as you've already experienced with how the game feeling massively changed with the introduction of LOD in 1.07).

People normally say 1.07 and 1.08 have broken MF, and it does in some cases, but if you look at it from the perspective of how MF worked in prelod, instead of from the perspective of 1.09/1.10, I could argue that MF is working as intended lol (Meaning 1.07 and 1.08 were actually still working more like the prelod system). The TC system wasn't complete though in 1.07 (But was in 1.08), so that's "a bug".

[TheDankest]

Yeah it was always a little unclear on how mf worked exactly. I know how it's supposed to work but there are a lot of really old tests that point towards certain deadzones in mf and not just 151-192 or whatever. Not entirely certain, I've been spending too much time looking through lurker lounge archives haha

[fearedbliss]

Haha for sure . I've come to like the whole "don't think about MF for the most part" attitude in prelod. I'm actually a fan of not having as much player agency and having more dependence on RNG. It makes the struggle crazier and the rewards even that much better. I also loved the simplicity of just playing Diablo 1 where I never thought about MF and just concentrated on playing the actual game, exploration, and all of that good stuff. That's why I really like prelod and feel it's Diablo 1.5, or essentially actually just Diablo 2. Diablo 2 LOD took the game to the next level and it's what most people associate "Diablo 2" of being but in reality, if you look at it from the Diablo 1 perspective, Diablo 2 (prelod) males perfect sense. Sure they ran out of time (A5 and the swap of A5 with A4), but for the most part, they got the core stuff implemented.

From one of the interviews I posted here on the forum, the old interviews with Bill Roper from when D2 was about to be released is interesting because he was already speaking about that they were going to have guilds and a guild hall.. originally I thought the guild stuff was going to happen either for LOD or for the second expansion, but that conversation happened pre D2 launch. So very interesting..

[TheDankest]

I play the same way where I don't think about it too much and just try to have some, but not focus on having a lot. Sometimes I do wish it worked differently though. Even if it was just capped at whatever It is at like 70 mf or something so you just knew a number to get to etc. It just feels kinda bad sometimes lol. I suppose changing it would be too complicated and out of scope and difficult to balance without changing the original balancing of the game too much.